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		By: Glenda Larke		</title>
		<link>https://glendalarke.com/2006/06/why-fantasy-and-not-sci-fi-2/#comment-24998</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenda Larke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see your point, Trudi, but I think that often when the protagonist is royal, they start off being the runt of the litter so to speak. Or they lose their position of power by being thrown out of the castle (like GRRMartin&#039;s Song of Fire &amp; Ice)so that they become ordinary.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And the two of us, of course, had to go to the extreme with our first trilogies,  - and choose heroines from the slums!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see your point, Trudi, but I think that often when the protagonist is royal, they start off being the runt of the litter so to speak. Or they lose their position of power by being thrown out of the castle (like GRRMartin&#8217;s Song of Fire &#038; Ice)so that they become ordinary.</p>
<p>And the two of us, of course, had to go to the extreme with our first trilogies,  &#8211; and choose heroines from the slums!</p>
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		By: chocolatetrudi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmmm. I agree that readers of fantasy like the feeling that people can triumph over adversity. But I don&#039;t agree that it&#039;s always an ordinary person. When I wrote the Black Magician Trilogy I was utterly sick of royals having all the adventures. If they appeared to be ordinary at first, they always turned out to be lost heirs or have some kind of noble parentage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. I agree that readers of fantasy like the feeling that people can triumph over adversity. But I don&#8217;t agree that it&#8217;s always an ordinary person. When I wrote the Black Magician Trilogy I was utterly sick of royals having all the adventures. If they appeared to be ordinary at first, they always turned out to be lost heirs or have some kind of noble parentage.</p>
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		By: flexnib		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 06:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes Glenda, blogging is wonderful :)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Looking forward to reading more here (and more of your books too) now that I&#039;ve found your blog!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Glenda, blogging is wonderful 🙂</p>
<p>Looking forward to reading more here (and more of your books too) now that I&#8217;ve found your blog!</p>
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		By: Bernita		</title>
		<link>https://glendalarke.com/2006/06/why-fantasy-and-not-sci-fi-2/#comment-24995</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernita]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From one WOW ( wicked old woman) to another...likewise, Glenda.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I sometimes think that fantasy writers search the past to ensure the future while SF writers imagine a future to protect the present.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Have found more true philosophy on the nature of good and evil, light and dark, in fantasy than any other genre.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From one WOW ( wicked old woman) to another&#8230;likewise, Glenda.</p>
<p>I sometimes think that fantasy writers search the past to ensure the future while SF writers imagine a future to protect the present.</p>
<p>Have found more true philosophy on the nature of good and evil, light and dark, in fantasy than any other genre.</p>
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		By: Glenda Larke		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenda Larke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, nice to see lots of people agreeing! The argument that I thought was really weird was the one that came from Greg Benford some time ago(and doubtless others) that fantasy readers wanted to go back to the past and thought it was a great place to be, and were against any kind of modernity/technology. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Whereas SF was the forward-looking, scientific-based realm of the real world. (He hates Star Wars and such). &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Huh? Is there anyone wants to go back and live in the Middle Ages? Or even, say, Afghanistan under the Taliban - who had much of the same Medieval thinking? Why is writing about a technologically underdeveloped world an attempt to return to it? and hadn&#039;t he read any modern fantasy?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Actually, probably he hadn&#039;t. SF writers who are so scornful of fantasy never read it and rarely have any idea of what modern fantasy is about. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I love SF and read it just as much as I read fantasy. They both have much to offer; it&#039;s often just a different vehicle to get to a similar place.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Glad you like Isles of Glory, CW! And I am so glad you have dropped by and written a comment. Isn&#039;t blogging wonderful?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;One of these days, Bernita, I would love to meet you...lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, nice to see lots of people agreeing! The argument that I thought was really weird was the one that came from Greg Benford some time ago(and doubtless others) that fantasy readers wanted to go back to the past and thought it was a great place to be, and were against any kind of modernity/technology. </p>
<p>Whereas SF was the forward-looking, scientific-based realm of the real world. (He hates Star Wars and such). </p>
<p>Huh? Is there anyone wants to go back and live in the Middle Ages? Or even, say, Afghanistan under the Taliban &#8211; who had much of the same Medieval thinking? Why is writing about a technologically underdeveloped world an attempt to return to it? and hadn&#8217;t he read any modern fantasy?</p>
<p>Actually, probably he hadn&#8217;t. SF writers who are so scornful of fantasy never read it and rarely have any idea of what modern fantasy is about. </p>
<p>I love SF and read it just as much as I read fantasy. They both have much to offer; it&#8217;s often just a different vehicle to get to a similar place.</p>
<p>Glad you like Isles of Glory, CW! And I am so glad you have dropped by and written a comment. Isn&#8217;t blogging wonderful?</p>
<p>One of these days, Bernita, I would love to meet you&#8230;lol</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the tip for the discussion site, will go and check it out!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think you&#039;ve hit the nail on the head, pretty much. Within fantasy I think (for the most part) there is still a place for optimism, for triumph, for good and decent people to defeat the forces of greed and selfishness and darkness that threaten to steal all the light from the world. Life at the moment is pretty dark, in many countries. Fantasy helps to keep the dream alive.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think it&#039;s sad that within the spec fic community there are so many folk willing to scoff and sneer at the idea that such optimism is a good thing. And not only at the idea, but at the people who write it and read it and by extension, believe in it.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Cynicism is rampant and its pernicious, it&#039;s a nasty sneak thief out to steal that flicker of hope.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Really well written fantasy doesn&#039;t deny the existence of darkness, it shows us how it&#039;s possible to shine a light into it and thereby chase some of it away. Small people can and do make a difference. To stifle that truth is to do a great disservice to people everywhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tip for the discussion site, will go and check it out!</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ve hit the nail on the head, pretty much. Within fantasy I think (for the most part) there is still a place for optimism, for triumph, for good and decent people to defeat the forces of greed and selfishness and darkness that threaten to steal all the light from the world. Life at the moment is pretty dark, in many countries. Fantasy helps to keep the dream alive.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s sad that within the spec fic community there are so many folk willing to scoff and sneer at the idea that such optimism is a good thing. And not only at the idea, but at the people who write it and read it and by extension, believe in it.</p>
<p>Cynicism is rampant and its pernicious, it&#8217;s a nasty sneak thief out to steal that flicker of hope.</p>
<p>Really well written fantasy doesn&#8217;t deny the existence of darkness, it shows us how it&#8217;s possible to shine a light into it and thereby chase some of it away. Small people can and do make a difference. To stifle that truth is to do a great disservice to people everywhere.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://glendalarke.com/2006/06/why-fantasy-and-not-sci-fi-2/#comment-24992</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hah, i like the last comment. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I would have to agree to, not just being a young reader and getting away from the life that &quot;i dont like&quot;. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I find it a good way to leave the world behind and travel to another and I like the little guy winning in the end. Gives you a sense of pride.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah, i like the last comment. </p>
<p>I would have to agree to, not just being a young reader and getting away from the life that &#8220;i dont like&#8221;. </p>
<p>I find it a good way to leave the world behind and travel to another and I like the little guy winning in the end. Gives you a sense of pride.</p>
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		By: Bernita		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree.&lt;BR/&gt;Have always been very fond of the little guy/apparently helpless type turning the tables, showing unsuspected strength and talent - like the little old lady kicking the mugger in the crotch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.<br />Have always been very fond of the little guy/apparently helpless type turning the tables, showing unsuspected strength and talent &#8211; like the little old lady kicking the mugger in the crotch.</p>
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		By: flexnib		</title>
		<link>https://glendalarke.com/2006/06/why-fantasy-and-not-sci-fi-2/#comment-24990</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Glenda, I was most pleased to find your blog (via &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://thebookaholic.blogspot.com/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bibliobibuli&lt;/A&gt; - really hope Sharon gets well soon!). &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#039;ve read and enjoyed your Isles of Glory series and am looking forward to your next. You know, I would never dream of writing to an author (is it possible to get tongue-tied in a letter, even email?) but on a blog everyone is somehow more real and accessible and I seem to get over my shyness.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I have never seen fantasy novels as reinforcing the status quo (although some might), and have enjoyed them precisely for the sense of triumphing over adversity. I also love the vivid and rich worlds authors create.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Glenda, I was most pleased to find your blog (via <a HREF="http://thebookaholic.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Bibliobibuli</a> &#8211; really hope Sharon gets well soon!). </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read and enjoyed your Isles of Glory series and am looking forward to your next. You know, I would never dream of writing to an author (is it possible to get tongue-tied in a letter, even email?) but on a blog everyone is somehow more real and accessible and I seem to get over my shyness.</p>
<p>I have never seen fantasy novels as reinforcing the status quo (although some might), and have enjoyed them precisely for the sense of triumphing over adversity. I also love the vivid and rich worlds authors create.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with you. Too often I think critics of fantasy throw around the accusation that fantasy fans are all &quot;nostalgic&quot; and that it is about reinforcing the status quo. But I think a lot of people turn to fantasy for the opposite reason, because it posits a world in which &quot;making a difference&quot; is still seen as possible, which is something most people don&#039;t feel in their lives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you. Too often I think critics of fantasy throw around the accusation that fantasy fans are all &#8220;nostalgic&#8221; and that it is about reinforcing the status quo. But I think a lot of people turn to fantasy for the opposite reason, because it posits a world in which &#8220;making a difference&#8221; is still seen as possible, which is something most people don&#8217;t feel in their lives.</p>
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